{"id":484,"date":"2012-12-31T21:37:59","date_gmt":"2012-12-31T21:37:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/?p=484"},"modified":"2012-12-31T21:37:59","modified_gmt":"2012-12-31T21:37:59","slug":"minutes-of-fhca-meeting-september-18-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/?p=484","title":{"rendered":"Minutes of FHCA meeting September 18, 2012"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">FRASER<\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"> HEIGHTS<\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"> COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MINUTES<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">September 18, 2012<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<strong>President\u2019s report<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Web site \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/\">www.fhca.ca<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Lindsay Ryerson, president<\/li>\n<li>Mandate of the FHCA \u2013 to represent issues that concern our community \u2013 safety, police issues, traffic, infrastructure issues, development.\u00a0 We provide a voice at City Hall \u2013 they value our input on issues of concern to Fraser Heights.<\/li>\n<li>Go to website and register in order to get email reminders of our 4 meetings per year.\u00a0 About 400 people have signed up on this site.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Treasurer\u2019s report<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Financial statement \u2013 total account balance is $3867.70<\/li>\n<li>Expenses were $300 for rental of the FHSS theatre and $185 for insurance so we can use the school for our meetings.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<strong>Liquor Store Application<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The FHCA Board of Directors met with Joe Khalifa and Al Arbuthnot on Thursday September 13<sup>th<\/sup> in regards to the proposed liquor store at the Fraser Heights Mall.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>The Liquor store application is for the space Fraser\u2019s Bistro occupied.<\/li>\n<li>There are no Surrey By-lows governing where liquor stores can be situated unless they have a pub attached to them.\u00a0 In that case, they cannot be within 400 meters of schools or parks.<\/li>\n<li>The mall is zoned with a CD rating which originally allowed a liquor store.\u00a0 Due to Surrey by-law changes, it was stated that a pub had to be attached to a liquor store (this puts the provincial\/municipal laws in conflict as a pub is not required for provincial liquor stores).\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>The mall must apply for rezoning in order to have a liquor store without a pub.<\/li>\n<li>The City of Surrey requested a letter from the FH Association to show support for this application.\u00a0 The FHCA will put any caveats into the letter written such as to not allow a pub.\u00a0 Issues brought up by those attending this meeting will also be included in the letter.<\/li>\n<li>This will be a privately operated liquor store that will sell wine, beer and hard liquor.\u00a0 The proprietor currently owns several liquor stores.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Residents offered these suggestions to have a liquor store:<br \/>\na) Liquor stores are good tenants \u2013 they bring in people and money and are beneficial to other stores in the area<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>b) There has been shown to be no noticeable impact on the crime rate.<\/p>\n<p>c)\u00a0 Residents won\u2019t have to go across the freeway to get liquor.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>RCMP \u2013 concerns were raised about selling to minors, traffic congestion at the mall, and the location of the business right across from school (there are no liquor stores in Langley or Vancouver near schools).\u00a0 There are Liquor stores in Guildford and Fleetwood that do service FH.<\/li>\n<li>Parents concerned that younger kids would ask older teens\/adults to buy liquor for them.\u00a0 One resident stated that if kids wanted liquor, they\u2019d find a way to get it no matter where it was.<\/li>\n<li>Concerns were raised about the location across from high school and elementary schools.<\/li>\n<li>Some residents stated that the further from young people the establishment is, better it is for residents.<\/li>\n<li>A point was made that tobacco is sold at Nesters, Rexall and the Gas Station.\u00a0 Drugs are sold behind the gas station.\u00a0 Dean Scott will be apprised of this \u2013 (bring up at next meeting).<\/li>\n<li>Underage kids involved in offenses with alcohol\/drugs are taken home to their parents but up it is up to the parents to do something and many don\u2019t.<\/li>\n<li>It was stated that people going in and out of the liquor store will take about 5 minutes \u2013 so this should not have a huge impact on traffic in FH.<\/li>\n<li>Hours of operation are controlled by province \u2013 7 days a week.\u00a0 9 a.m. to 11 p.m.\u00a0 The proprietor stated that he would operate within those hours but would monitor the hours to see what would work best for FH community.<\/li>\n<li>School\u2019s view \u2013 PACs were responding separately.\u00a0 Most against.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Up until night of the Country Fair in June, no one knew what was going into the Frasers Bistro site.\u00a0 It was the end of school year, grad time and not all the 25,000 residents went to the fair so most did not see\/hear about the proposed liquor store.\u00a0 Not lot of time to speak to PACs as they did not function during the summer.\u00a0 Unfortunately, tonight there is a high school PAC meeting in the library and Dogwood has a parent\/teacher barbeque so many representatives from the schools could not come.\u00a0 Concerns have been raised from the schools.\u00a0 There are also other community areas nearby &#8211; water park, skate park, rec centre.<\/li>\n<li>Some residents would be In favour of a liquor store if an alternate site could be found such as put it with the toll booth or at the bottom of 104<sup>th<\/sup> Ave toward 176<sup>th<\/sup> Street.<\/li>\n<li>A Liquor store was approved when mall was 1<sup>st<\/sup> built as a possible tenant.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>A vote was taken and the majority of residents were not in support of having a liquor store in the FH mall.\u00a0 Out of 65 people that attended the FH meeting, 35 were opposed to the liquor store at FH plaza, 9 were in favour and 21 did not vote. Of the, 35 opposed, 24 did not want any liquor store in Fraser Heights at any location, while 11 would be in favour of a location that was not near any of the schools such as at the foot of 104<sup>th<\/sup> Street near the intermodal yards.<\/li>\n<li>Tom Gill, City councillor, explained that the bylaw required a pub to be joined to a liquor store for any new establishments.\u00a0 It will be amended so a liquor store can be opened without a pub.\u00a0 Applicant has to make a request to the City for an amendment.\u00a0 Can regulate hours\/days.\u00a0 Tom stated that Guildford did have a stand-alone liquor store as it had been run by gov\u2019t .\u00a0 Minimum distance from liquor store to liquor store \u2013 1 km to an existing one so FH mall is outside that area from Guildford.<\/li>\n<li>When application goes through City Hall, (it will be on a Monday night) residents are invited to attend the meeting and express their thoughts for or against.\u00a0 Once the date for the application hearing is known, it will be put on the FHCA website.<\/li>\n<li>As an alternate to this, FH Residents have voice at City Hall \u2013 send an email or write so they have a \u00a0record of your comments.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Police and Security \u2013 Staff Sargent Dean Scott<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Dean Scott, Div 2 commander for the RCMP, is assigned to this area &#8211; he\u2019s been in the RCMP for 32 years.\u00a0 Dean is at the RCMP office at 5 every morning so contact him with any concerns you might have.\u00a0 Unfortunately, he was unable to attend tonight and no other officer could come so Corp. Dwayne Croll sent an update:<\/li>\n<li>Recent shooting in FH &#8211; he stated the murder was 100% targeted.\u00a0 Victim was well known to police.\u00a0 No further threat to the home or neighbours.<\/li>\n<li>Get to know your neighbours and establish a Block Watch or get involved in your neighbourhood Block Watch.<\/li>\n<li>Increased presence of bicycle cops at events.\u00a0 RCMP will have double the regular staff working on Halloween and the weekend before.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Once trick or treat is finished, residents were advised to bring in decorations as vandals tend to move in.<\/li>\n<li>Park your cars in garages to avoid vandalism to vehicles.<\/li>\n<li>Officers patrol late evenings and nights and have found many garages open.\u00a0 They have knocked on doors even at 3 a.m. to let residents know about this.\u00a0 Please check to make sure you close your garage doors.<\/li>\n<li>This past weekend there were 2 new break-ins \u2013 one at 174 St\/104 Ave where there\u2019s new construction and one at 155 St\/108 Ave.\u00a0 These thieves are using the same strategy that was previous used on past break-ins.\u00a0 They tend to park their vehicles a few blocks from targeted residences.\u00a0 The home owners were Korean and the thieves targeted resident\u2019s money\/jewelry.\u00a0 Entry was through the back.\u00a0 If any resident sees men climbing fences or suspect someone, call 911.\u00a0 It is better to call and be a false alarm.\u00a0 No call is too small.\u00a0 The RCMP have been successful in Richmond recently.\u00a0 These thieves are working all areas of BC.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Traffic Issues<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>3 lanes on the new Port Mann bridge heading eastbound opened today.\u00a0 Westbound will open later this year.<\/li>\n<li>Go to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.treo.ca\/\">www.treo.ca<\/a> and sign up to get transponder sticker.\u00a0 You will get a discount if you sign up early (before Nov 30) and receive 20 free trips.\u00a0 If before Feb, you\u2019ll still get a discount till Dec 15<sup>th<\/sup>\/2013 but no free trips.\u00a0 Even if you use the bridge infrequently, the sticker is free and will save you having to pay the \u201cday of\u201d any crossings you may make plus will give you a discount on any crossings for the next year if you sign up before the bridge opens.\u00a0 It is just a sticker that you put on your car and will work for both the Golden Ears bridge as well as the new Port Mann bridge.<\/li>\n<li>Construction at 168\/104 has been going on to put in traffic lights.\u00a0 Currently, they are waiting for BC Hydro to get light up and running.<\/li>\n<li>There is a new street &#8211; 175A &#8211; being built.\u00a0 City is putting street into where the Korean church is to help with local traffic as they had to access their church through the residential area.<\/li>\n<li>Development sign at 164 St\/104 Ave for 16 lots.\u00a0 Our FHCA has been requesting traffic lights at that intersection for many years as there have been many accidents there.\u00a0 With more houses, this becomes an even greater concern.<\/li>\n<li>SFPR \u2013 significant construction is going on presently.\u00a0 Can view the project on their website.\u00a0 Current configuration of traffic around 176 will be in place for about 1 year.\u00a0 Right now, they are doing construction to take you up 176.\u00a0 By December, will have to go through that intersection stoplight twice due to the traffic configuration.<\/li>\n<li>Access to CN yard is permanent.\u00a0 SFPR has to finish line painting and utility work to open by Dec.<\/li>\n<li>Anticipated there will be curbing along 104 Ave from 168 to 160 Streets \u2013 this is not on the TI Corp drawings<\/li>\n<li>Golden ears connector 104 Ave\/176 St to 96 Ave.\u00a0 Recently started construction \u2013 extension along 104 Ave\/ Daly Road.\u00a0 Preload starting to go in so can pave it when it has settled.\u00a0 Have not yet acquired all 179 to 170A property which must be done before road can be put through.\u00a0 1<sup>st<\/sup> step is to widen Daly road to make it safer then extend it to Golden Ears pathway.\u00a0 Projected timeline for completion is the end of 2013.<\/li>\n<li>156 St HOV access \u2013 when open, won\u2019t be able to get out of that lane right through to Brunette \u2013 separated by concrete barrier.\u00a0 Will NOT be able to get off at Cape Horn.\u00a0 Will try to get TI corp representative for next meeting<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<strong>Railway Crossings<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Limitations of train whistles in FH.\u00a0 Reconfigured for minimum # of crossings.<\/li>\n<li>Blowing horns in yard overnight when no trains moving<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Development in Fraser Heights:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>164 St\/104 Ave (North East corner) \u2013 16 lots<\/li>\n<li>159 St to160 Ave just north of 104 Ave\/Freeway \u2013 36 lots<\/li>\n<li>157 St\/ 107 Ave \u2013 7 lots<\/li>\n<li>If residents have any concerns about these projects, go to the City\u2019s website and quote the number on bottom of the development signs when you email your concerns.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Member\u2019s concerns<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kindermorgan pipeline extension \u2013 residents worried that adverse publicity could decrease their property values, even if pipeline is safe<\/li>\n<li>Pipeline will be doubled alongside current pipeline.\u00a0 Kindermorgan does have a right of way &#8211; a 20 foot width that runs along the fence line.\u00a0 Homeowners may have the land either on the front or back of their residences but KM has right of way.\u00a0 They will take down fences, undo landscaping and will redo it in better way than was so will not devalue property.\u00a0 Residents have been pleased with the professionalism of the work Kindermorgan has done to restore their property.\u00a0 FHCA will try to get them to come to one of our meetings.<\/li>\n<li>Hysteria about this has been about another pipeline further north.\u00a0 The pipeline that runs through FH brings crude oil to Burnaby \u2013 it is not linked to the one running further north that will take the oil to China.\u00a0 The pipeline in FH cuts through the new development at the intersection of 176\/ Hwy 1.\u00a0 They have had to design their project so they don\u2019t build on top of it.<\/li>\n<li>Yellow markers \u2013 the pipeline is most likely in the center of this right of way.\u00a0 It never runs under a house but may run through front or back yards.\u00a0 Tall trees were cut down 1 \u00bd years ago that were on the pipeline right of way.<\/li>\n<li>Residents wanted info about construction activity around 156 Street as the pipeline was 15 meters below the road line.\u00a0 They wondered if there would be a trench dug across 156 Street?<\/li>\n<li>Several residents stated that they would like to know when the FHCA meetings were scheduled.\u00a0 Posters were pasted on mail boxes and on community bulletin boards, Erma Stephenson put the message on their electronic board, the information was on the FHCA website and those who have registered were sent an email. A resident mentioned that there was a Facebook site \u2013 My Fraser Heights (it is not connected with our FHCA) that could maybe be used to get the word out about meetings<\/li>\n<li>It was also suggested that FHCA get a big banner and put it on the corner by the Scotia Bank and Quiznos.<\/li>\n<li>Put notices in the Leader<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Next Meeting will be Wednesday November 28, 2012<\/span><\/strong> in the theatre at Fraser Heights Secondary School at 7 p.m.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>FRASER HEIGHTS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MINUTES September 18, 2012 \u00a0President\u2019s report Web site \u2013 www.fhca.ca Lindsay Ryerson, president Mandate of the FHCA \u2013 to represent issues that concern our community \u2013 safety, police issues, traffic, infrastructure issues, development.\u00a0 We provide a &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/?p=484\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/484"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=484"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/484\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":485,"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/484\/revisions\/485"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=484"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=484"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fhca.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=484"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}