Minutes, FHCA meeting September 20 2017


September 20, 2017

President’s report

  • Web site – fhca.ca
  • Ed MacIntosh, president
  • FHCA is a volunteer non-profit organization – we volunteer our time to represent the community dealing with issues that affect our community such as safety, traffic, development
  • The FHCA gathers four times a year to discuss issues that affect our community
  • FHCA helps shape policy and issues that involve our community
  • If you have problems in our community, please send your information to us and we will look into these issues (go to Contact Us on the fhca.ca website or send email to directors@fhca.ca). This is our primary site to collect comments from residents about community issues so we know about them and can send them on to the City.
  • Membership is free. If you are not currently on the email list, go to our website and sign up (on the right side of website page – click on become a member).  You will receive four notifications and four reminders of the upcoming meetings per year.  There may also be notifications of open houses or events affecting FH residents.

Treasurer’s report

  • Financial statement – total account balance is $2,024.38

RCMP update on safety and security – District Commander Cpl (A/Sgt) Bob Keay, acting sergeant was in attendance tonight.  He can be reached at bob.keay@rcmp-grc.gc.ca.  District #2 Community Response Unit 10395-148 St.  phone # 778-593-3286 – you can leave a voicemail on Bob’s number if there is something taking place in community that you want brought to the attention of RCMP and is not urgent.

  • Break and enters in FH and Birdland – 2 different groups operating in these areas have been arrested, charges laid and the groups have been displaced (B&E #s have drastically been reduced since then).
  • Increase in fraud – this is a difficult crime to investigate. There were 2,492 incidents reported in Surrey from Jan to Aug 2017 in the form of house rentals, job offers, phone calls, emails, credit card fraud, stolen/lost property.  Most of the identity papers are stolen from cars – thieves create fake credit cards based on this information.
  • Bank card fraud – 214% increase Feb and March 2017 – done through skimming machines which allow thieves to fraudulently access victims’ bank cards without victims knowing as the cards are not stolen, only the information is stolen.
  • Phone scam strategies –
  1. Scammers say they are calling on behalf of an authority (CRA, IRS, RCMP, foreign police agencies, Chinese or other foreign gov’t) and want payment, often in the form of a large number of iTunes or Steam Gift cards. They may threaten deportation of individual if payment isn’t made.  Note, they may spoof the phone system and look like they are actually phoning from one of those agencies so don’t assume the number is legitimate.
  2. The caller says “You won a prize” or “you qualify for reduced credit card loan rates” but in order to get these, you must pay a processing fee (so they get your bank information).
  3. “Yes” phone calls – the caller asks for victim by name “Is this Mr. X” and if you say “yes”, your recorded voice is used for okaying the thieves’ transactions as they already have all your information.
  4. Gov’t phone scams – starting in June, there were multiple calls targeting Chinese victims for personal info and money. Some of these scams were claiming the person had sent a parcel to China and the government was requiring money to be sent.
  • Common email fraud – these require you to click on the email link, put in your information and then your computer freezes. They say you have to pay money to unlock computer.  It’s a virus that has been introduced into your computer.  Don’t pay them!  Instead, unplug your internet.
  • House rental – scammers post fake rental ads on Craigslist, require a deposit and may even mail a key but there is no rental suite or someone lives there already.
  • Job offer scam – posted on Craigslist – They will send victim a cheque to deposit in account. Before the transaction has cleared the bank, they’ll call back and say they overpaid you so you have to remit the difference but you can keep the rest.  Turns out the cheques are bogus and you’ll  be out all the money you sent to them
  • Prevention – protect your ID – never give personal info over phone or internet. If too good to be true, it probably is.
  • If you are uncertain about a call or email, ask police for assistance before you send money or reply. Note;  police never accept money or any form of payment (even if you want to pay a ticket, you must go to proper agency to pay).
  • Gabe Pelletier is taking over from Blair Berkner to oversee Crime Prevention/Block Watch in Whalley, Newton and Guildford.


  • Highcrest
  1. The proposal of adding another 105 townhouses and reducing the retail space to 4,500 sq ft. was rejected by the City. There were 37 letters of opposition, 92 people who signed in at City Hall opposed and at least 7 or 8 spoke against it.
  2. FHCA president, Ed MacIntosh, approached Ron Gill, head of Surrey City planning, to request our association be a part of the planning proposals earlier in the process and Ron Gill agreed to that. FHCA often did not hear about developments until late in the process and it could be difficult to convince council at the time of the town meeting.
  • Proposed high-density townhouse development at 100 Avenue and 176 Street
  1. The 4.5 acre parcel of land for this proposed Townhouse complex is north of Hwy 1, west of 176 (Hwy 17) and on both sides of 100 Ave that used to enter onto 176th. It sits 8 meters below the road level on the north.  There is a statutory right of way through the middle of the acreage.  This parcel is zoned for 15 units per acre but this development is currently at 16.8 units per acre.  It is not zoned for commercial so no retail on property.
  2. Doug Johnson is the architect on project and gave the following information:
  • The City wanted townhouses/higher density in this area and with the property configuration, this type of housing fits the area well.
  • The proposed 77 townhouses will face Barnston and they will be in small clusters (3 or 4 units) with horizontal siding, wall shingles and heavy timber for porch detailing
  • Existing trees on an adjacent 9,000 sq. ft. lot to the west will be retained (not developed) and the existing 100 Ave will be closed at entrance to complex
  • Units will have double car garages, peaked roofs and exteriors in a rich palate of colours
  • Townhouses will be 3 floors, 2,200 sq ft, 3 bdrm (garage included in sq area). No suites in bottom level – it is not a big area (bonus room on lower floor – 13 ft by width of unit. Strata controls suites and they won’t allow suites
  • Road frontages will be finished and sidewalks put in up to their frontage
  • City guidelines for visitor parking (# units X 0.2 = 15 visitor parking spaces)
  • Target price range would be, depending on type and size, over $650,000 but hard to predict at this point in time.
  1. A concern was raised that the density of this development exceeded the guidelines in the Local Area Plan.
  2. Question was asked about excess parking – where would those cars park? Since there is no transit nearby (168 St/104 Ave is closest), most units would have at least 2 cars.  What would stop people from parking in residential areas around the complex or on Barnston (answer – City would be put up signs for no parking).
  3. Residents had concerns about access in and out of this development as there are essentially only two streets that can be used (168 or 171A) to come and go.
  4. Note; Developers have to go to the City to apply for each change they make to the plans.
  5. Question asked about possibility of having 1 or 2 storey units for FH residents who want to stay in the area but downsize and have less or no stairs to climb. Suggestion was to have a lift installed.
  6. Question – if a property is bought for investment, can it be rented out or will the strata allow that – depends on strata
  7. Schools? Schools in FH are already quite full or closed – would there be a future school built nearby? – most likely no.  School fees are paid to City by development but the City and Province decide when and where schools will be built
  8. Question about noise mitigation in the units – complex is beside the truck route with about 30,000 vehicles driving by per day (Hwy 17/SFPR or old 176 Street). Answer – they will be required to do acoustic report and have an acoustic buffer
  9. Question about the tree canopy being lost as every tree is usually taken down. Answer – each tree has to be replaced with 2 trees (but not necessarily in that location and often tiny trees are planted that take decades to grow)
  10. If residents want to give feedback about this development, please send emails to fhca


Hawthorne Park

  1. City of Surrey is planning on putting road(s) through Hawthorne Park (104/144) and residents had to have over 30,000 signatures on their petition by Sept 22nd in order to have council revisit or stop this construction.
  2. 105 Ave was designated to go through and utilities moved into the park because the LRT proposed for 104 Ave will cause 104 Ave to be very congested (it would go from 4 lanes to 2 lanes). There is a “right of way” in the park – suggestion was to put the utilities underground and not disturb the park.
  3. If City doesn’t listen to residents, there is the possibility they could use parks around the City for other projects, even in FH.
  4. Hawthorne Park has a historical remnant bog which is 4,000 to 5000 years old. Bonaccord Creek runs through the park and this roadway would be adjacent to the children’s water park.

Traffic Issues

  • Intersection at 104 and SFPR – issues with U-turns, intersection congestion
  1. Coming down hill on SFPR there’s a left turn to turn up 104 Ave. People were going up and making a U turn – within a week, a no U-turn sign was put up.
  • Other issue in that area concerns pedestrians and cyclists, the intersection, CN yards, 2 sets of lights. A letter was sent to Jamie Boan at the City to get the lights and intersection fixed before someone gets seriously injured.


  • Trans Mountain pipeline – FHCA is working with City to oppose route that had been proposed
  • Surrey Bend Regional Park – On Saturday October 14, there will be a Flashlight Mysteries evening in the park from 6 to 9 p.m. It is posted on our website.  See metrovancouver.org,
  • Abbey Ridge Concept Use Plan – Don Luymes from Planning has moved on to another job at the City – now Preet Heer is temporarily taking over position – she will be meeting with some directors to do a review of the plan from 172 Street to Golden Ears Way. East side of SFPR.  Neighbourhood input is valuable.
  • 1 lot 166A and 102 Ave – in Parkview Place development – 1 lot on corner 311 sq meters – too small for house but house is proposed to go there.
  • 1 resident caught 3 car thief incidents around Salisbury Dr on video surveillance – they filed police report.
  • 168 bridge to Tynehead, 20 Aug – someone was camping there and has been seen more than once. Police won’t do anything if those people aren’t causing problems.
  • Earlier in September around 172 St – resident stated that there were guys slashing tires – Information like this must be reported to police, a file number will be issued and then police will be aware of the activity and send more patrols to this and surrounding areas. Everyone who had tires slashed needs to report.  If not reported, police are not aware of problem and won’t be on the lookout for the criminals.
  • Nester’s – restricted access, illegal left turn into the mall, lots of people making U-turns to get back into the mall
  • Art piece that was to go at 156/108 traffic circle – will now go around the community Rec Centre. City will give an update near end of September.
  • Wine store at Fraser Heights Village Mall – They stated customers wanted beer and wine in the store (they had over 400 letters requesting the change). An application was made to permit the conversion to a private liquor store with a full product line.  100 meter letter will be sent out then green sign will go up.  If residents are opposed to this change in the store, fine, let the directors/City know.  Square footage will remain the same.
  • resident questioned whether they would expand the size of the store, perhaps taking over space next door to it but that is not part of the zoning application so size will remain the same.

The FHCA meetings for the 2017/2018 year will be:
December 6, 2017

February 21, 2018

May 9, 2018

Hawthorne Park – council meeting

From SaveSurreyParks:

Save Hawthorne Park – Final Stage of the Campaign~please stand with us Monday, Oct. 23rd!

The City of Surrey is planning to put a two-lane road through Hawthorne Park, located in North Surrey. This road will destroy a very sensitive ecological area and change the nature of the park forever. The road is being built to support LRT and to provide convenient vehicle access for several prime lots that are waiting to be developed.

We submitted over 5,000 petition signatures on July 24th to the council, and we then submitted over 13,000 Elector Response Form (ERF) signatures on September 22nd.

At this point the council has not changed their minds and is planning to start construction on the road in January 2018. We need you to stand with the community to protect Hawthorne Park.

This battle is not just about this park but all of our parks. If Hawthorne Parks falls then it is so much easier for the city council to go after the rest of the parks using the same process.

The council will be deciding Hawthorne Park’s fate at an upcoming council meeting, and we are asking you to attend to show your support for all our parks.

Can you please share this info to those on your mailing list? Thank-you for any help you can give.

Date: Monday, October 23rd
Time: Arrive at 6:30 pm to get ready (council meeting starts at 7:00 pm)
Location: Surrey City Hall 13450 – 104th Avenue

Please join us on Facebook – “Save Hawthorne Park” https://www.facebook.com/groups/443005682741874/

For more info: https://savesurreyparks.ca/

Hawthorne Park – will it be lost?

There is a risk that Hawthorne Park – at the intersection of 104 Ave and 144 St – will be lost if 105 Ave is expanded for vehicle traffic to offset the loss of 104 Ave when the light rail transit is put into place. If you want to speak out against the destruction of the park, you can do so at


There is a petition on that page that you can join. The main part of the web posting is below:

Save Hawthorne Park

Hawthorne Park is a beautiful forested area in North Surrey. It is home to countless wildlife species and is an oasis for the community. The forested area is used by numerous people who enjoy its system of walking trails, and the park area is host to an abundance of social gatherings.

Hawthorne Park

The City of Surrey is planning to build a two lane road, with an additional connecting road, through the south end of Hawthorne Park. The road will start on the west side and exit on the east side. There will also be a southbound two lane road connecting the main road to 104th Avenue.

Project Map

Construction was originally scheduled for January 2018, but has now been moved up to late August 2017. This road is being constructed to handle the traffic that will be rerouted from 104th Avenue due to the proposed LRT.

Wildlife living in the forest will be devastated and several of the well-used walking trails will be replaced with two lane roads. No longer will we be able to watch the red-tail hawks fly overhead or listen to the barred owl at night. The roads will go right through their habitats.

Print out the petition and hand it out!

We need to preserve this forest for our community, for future generations, and for the wildlife living there who have no voice to speak for themselves.

Please stand with the community and sign this petition.

Contact me if you want to join our campaign team – stevengpettigrew@gmail.com


Temporary Discontinuation of Online Reporting for RCMP

Temporary Discontinuation of Online Reporting

Please be advised that online reporting has been temporarily discontinued for all RCMP detachments.

BC RCMP is currently in the process of creating a new, improved online reporting tool that is anticipated to launch in mid/late 2018. Previously, we were using an external company to provide this reporting tool and that contract has expired.

An alternative to calling non-emergency, online reporting allows residents to report less serious offences online such as thefts under $5,000, vandalism, unsafe driving, and vehicle break-ins.

We look forward to being able to provide you with an improved online reporting experience next year. In the meantime, please report crime via our non-emergency number at 604-599-0502 (911 for emergencies). Anonymous tips can still be submitted online through Crime Stoppers at www.solvecrime.ca.

Thank you for your patience and for your continued support in reporting crime and suspicious activity to police to keep our neighbourhoods safe.



Surrey RCMP – Fleetwood/Guildford

10395 148th Street

Surrey, BC, Canada  V3R 6S4
T 604.502.6509| E Surrey_Crime_Prevention_District_2@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

Non-Emergency 604-599-0502


Highcrest – application was denied – success for Fraser Heights

At a Surrey City Hall council meeting last night, the application by the developer of Highcrest to all but eliminate the retail in the facility and increase the density of residences in the complex was DENIED.

A major contributor to this success was the 92 people who showed up to sign up in opposition to the proposal, the 4 who spoke against the proposal, the 37 who submitted letters in advance of the meeting, as well as the hundreds of emails sent to council by our Community.

As a result, the developer must still move forward with the retail and commercial space that can become a meeting point for our community and provide a convenient center to pick up essentials.

Thank you to all who participated in making our Community a better place to live now and in the future.

Development on Barnston Drive that will affect traffic and the feel of Fraser Heights

There will be a public hearing for a development that will affect all of Fraser Heights on June 26 at 7:00 pm at City Hall at 13450 104 Ave, Surrey, BC V3T 1V8. The proposal below, 7916-0037-00, will be on the agenda. The developer of Highcrest at 176 St and Highway 1 has applied to increase the number of apartments in their development, and changing the proposal to allow more residences in what was previously zoned commercial (for stores and offices).

The impact on our community will be a further decline in the look and feel of our neighbourhood, more parking on the street, higher traffic accessing the highway through Fraser Heights, and increased load on our schools. If you object to this development change getting approved, you should do the following:

1. Write an email to council member and the mayor opposing – see details below

2. Go to City Hall on June 26. You can go to the main lobby between 6:30 and 6:55 where a City staff person has a list for people to sign: Name, Address & tick off “in favour” or “opposed”. You can also indicate if you would like to speak and address council. At approximately 6:55 the City staff person will collect the sheet(s), count the totals & deliver them to the Mayor in Chambers prior to the Hearing commencing.

You can then stick around for the council meeting and hear what happens at the proceeding, or simply head home now that your position has been recorded. Note that parking is underground at City Hall and is free on Council nights.

Your email can contain some of the following – please use your own words, since opposing emails with these words will be classified as only one opposing letter:

Indicate that you are writing about the development at 9933 Barnston Drive East, commonly known as Highcrest. Note that you live at (add your address here), and are affected by the development. You can then choose to include any issues on why you oppose the application, and could use any or all of the following points in your own words.

1. The Parking for Highcrest residents is already insufficient, resulting in excessive parking down 177A street, which does not even have any development on the east side but is already overloaded with parked cars from the density of development already there.

2. The project was originally approved by council in 2008 on the basis that ”While the proposal, if approved, would result in the loss of some employment lands, it has the potential to trigger the development of a neighbourhood village centre with up to 100,000 square feet of commercial space to serve the nearby emerging urban and established suburban neighbourhoods.”. With the Surrey council recently approving more developments and housing as part of the Local Area Plan for east Fraser Heights, the need for a neighbourhood village is even greater now than in was in 2008. Will the City really reverse the basis of approval for the project in the first place? Our neighbourhood is getting all the costs of the project and none of the benefits? Only the developer gains, the residents lose.

3. We need a “village centre” in the soon to be highly populated area of East Fraser Heights / Abbey Ridge. This current development proposal now seeks to reduce the commercial from 142,000 sq ft to just 4,050 sq. ft., just 3% of the originally committed amount. The only ”village centre” in Fraser Heights is at 160 St. & 108 Ave. There is clearly a need for another in the Abbey Ridge area.

4. There was great opposition from the community to the density of this proposal in 2008, resulting in it being revised downward a number of times, over concerns of overcrowding and stressing the resources in the community including but not limited to parking, traffic, schools, and transit (of which there is currently no service in this area, resulting in even greater concerns on parking and traffic).

5. The bottom line is that as a resident and caring citizen, you are expressing strong opposition to this proposal. The development should proceed on the basis upon which it was originally approved. Council should not be approving increasing density.

You can send your emails to the planner, dnip@surrey.ca. You should also send your thoughts to any and all of the mayor and council at the following email addresses:

Mayor Linda Hepner: mayor@surrey.ca

Councillor Tom Gill : TSGill@surrey.ca

Councillor Bruce Hayne: BruceHayne@surrey.ca

Councillor Vera LeFranc: Vera.LeFranc@surrey.ca

Councillor Mary Martin: MMartin@surrey.ca

Councillor Mike Starchuck: Mike.Starchuck@surrey.ca

Councillor Barbara Steele: HBSteele@surrey.ca

Councillor Judy Villeneuve: JAVilleneuve@surrey.ca

Councillor Dave Woods: Dave.Woods@surrey.ca